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Interview with Korey Nolan of Hydrophile Surfcraft
by George Nickoll
GN: Korey, it’s a real pleasure having the fins around the shop. They always seem to bring in compelling characters. Not long ago a fellow came all the way from the Great Lakes to see some Hydrophiles in person.
KN: I remember you telling me that. That sort of stuff floors me. I have a hard time keeping up with it or comprehending it or really feeling worthy of that. It’s awesome and I appreciate it so much.
GN: The success of Hydrophile seems to be an equal testament to the quality of your work and the strength of surfing’s general taste. Of course, there’s mounting doubt about the public’s appreciation for the handmade, with outsourced saturation and all. Hydrophile and its success give us all hope.
KN: Yeah, I mean, not even my mom really knows what I do. What it means to be a surf crafter. What it means to lift the veil on what surfing is. What exists as part of making a living as a craftsperson or artist.
GN: How many years have you been making fins now?
KN: I just passed five years of doing it full time. I lost my job in 2021. I was a graphic designer at a sign shop, and there was a change of ownership. They let me go after a six-month trial period. By then I'd already been making fins for about three or four years during any free time I had. Fin making was all I wanted to do, and the demand was already there. When you have somebody in your life who's supportive enough to say, "Okay," especially when you have two kids depending on it, that's a lot to ask. I'm so grateful for that opportunity, and for the support I got then and continue to get.
GN: What was that immediate transition like? I suspect there would have been some uncertainty or anxiety at play, especially seeing as you were charting new waters in terms of fin making in the Northeast.
KN: I am three or four thousand miles from California, way out of the epicenter of surfing. People who shape boards around here tend to fight a bit harder for it because you can’t get surfboards easily and you can’t convince someone in California to buy a board from New Hampshire. The fact that I am able to throw fins in a padded envelope and get them anywhere in the world at a reasonable cost has been very beneficial to the logistics of this as a business.
When I lost my job, I had a backlog of people waiting that was probably six or eight weeks long. I was doing it part time, and suddenly I had all this time to work on it. I took those first couple of days and weeks to get into that and formulate a plan to build out my workshop and be more functional. That’s kind of an ongoing thing. I’ve worked from my house for the past five years, but I’m sort of at the limit of my capacity as far as what I can produce. But I haven’t reached the capacity of the demand that’s there. Which is telling me that it’s time to keep pushing and grow further. Which is exciting and intimidating at the same time.
GN: What does growing further look like for you? I imagine it’s a delicate task, seeing as the personal attention and care in each fin is so crucial to the Hydrophile ethic.
KN: It’s interesting because, to me, this pursuit is different from what you see when fin brands pop up here and there. A lot of the time, someone will develop an image and product and outsource all of the work. Which is a viable model for creating products that fit in line with the specifics or aesthetics of surfing.
But for me, since I was a kid, the important aspect is the making of it—the incorporation of creative expression and functionality. More importantly, functionality. Growth for me would never involve outsourcing; I would never really consider that as an option.
We own a house here in New Hampshire and we have a little over three acres of land that I would love to put a shop on, but there’s a lot of red tape in this town about whether or not that’s possible. Either that or finding an industrial space where I can do it. There are certain aspects of what I do that a CNC machine could help execute. A machine could cut the template off of a panel and I would still be able to foil the fins, but that’s something that’s sort of against my ethos. I am doing this stuff by hand, so where is the dividing line of when the machine is taking over for me or taking away from the handmade aspect of what I do?
GN: I understand it’s a delicate balance, but it does seem like there’s a world wherein machinery could curiously help propagate the intentions of Hydrophile, assuming those are ones of refinement and creative development. Less time on the band saw allowing more time on the drawing board?
KN: That’s just one option. There are several eager individuals in this area and in the surf space who are interested in learning how to do what I do. I don’t need to employ a $1,000 machine to cut an outline when there’s someone who’s eager and who I could compensate. Working from home, I wouldn’t feel comfortable introducing something like that into my home with my kids.
So the first step in all of that is really to have a proper shop. There was a boom of handcrafted surfboards during the pandemic; that has somewhat waned, but it’s starting to fill back in. The people who withstood the slowdown in that sort of demand are still around and still doing great things, so I’m hopeful that the community can continue to push.
GN: I can only think of a very short list of independent fin makers on the East Coast, and two of them happen to be next-door neighbors in southern New Hampshire—you and Ian of Drab. Is that a coincidence, or is there something more going on there?
KN: Ian is great. He’s created this product that is formed from the product of his family’s business, which is producing high-performance rowing shells and paddles using carbon and heated molds. It’s incredible, and the products are unbelievable. Completely different from what I do as far as procedure goes, but still making fins.
He’s really looking to get back into fins a lot more. I hope he does. They’re great, and it’s a great thing to have in this area.
GN: It seems like there’s a great deal of anxiety and competition in the world of handmade surf craft. Your stance seems like a much more reasonable one, and cognizant of the pattern that more local small businesses won’t take away from the others, but instead increase the general awareness and appreciation for sourcing goods in a local context.
KN: Right, well Captain Fin Co. just vanished—either you didn’t hear about it and it didn’t matter, or you did hear about it and it didn’t matter. It didn’t affect the flow or demand of people like myself.
It was a large space in surfing, selling imported fins at incredibly low prices. They did really well and they had big names involved in their projects. People really loved them, and they were getting artists to do limited-edition fins, and it really tied well into the surf craft world. But when they were gone, it was not this vacancy that was really felt—everyone just kept doing what they were doing.
If you’re somebody like me who’s maybe producing 12 fins a week, if I’m lucky, I’m just grateful that I can continue to do that. If I’m able to grow, I don’t think that the quantities I’m able to yield are ever going to be up to that level of “big fin.” It’s a different animal.

GN: Of course, the worlds of surfboard and surf fin making are so steeped in the master-to-apprentice tradition. You’ve started your own independent business in New Hampshire, 3,000 miles away from the American nucleus of those methods. I suspect that not being a product of the factory setting would offer up an equal amount of exciting and liberating possibilities as it would inherent challenges.
KN: I am fortunate to be able to have a telescope on that whole industry of Southern California. I am so far out of it that I can operate independently. And, of course, I am doing this standing on the shoulders of so many who have done it before me.
I am self-taught but constantly learning, thanks to blogs and YouTube and internet scouring, in a similar way to if I was in a factory sweeping up floors. I don’t have that opportunity, and I am 39—I wasn’t young when I started doing this and I had a family. I had to do it in my own way, and I am able to be removed in a positive way from all the industry politics. I can operate on my own terms.
Going to California gives me an appreciation for what our scene is here. It does make me yearn for that level of industry—driving around and seeing the amount of people with boards on their cars and the amount of people not riding the same three brands of pop-outs that we see in New Hampshire. It’s nice to be reminded of the true scope of the industry, and it’s hard to get a sense of that in our isolated bubble here in New Hampshire.
GN: How would you classify your experience overall in the surfing subcultures of New England? Welcoming? Any pushback from the old guard?
KN: It’s a very core group of individuals. We have 17 miles of coastline in New Hampshire—it’s minuscule. As far as New England states are concerned, New Hampshire was the hardest nut to crack in terms of people. And maybe it’s because I didn’t grow up surfing here—I am from away.
But now it’s great. There are people I know every time I surf, and usually they have a few of my fins. Everyone is supportive of what I’m doing.
Early in this whole pursuit I gained a lot of traction from making a few surfboards out of trash for competitions that Vissla was running a few years ago. Those projects, like the Dunkin’ Donuts surfboard and the lobster buoy surfboard, got a lot of attention. People like TJ Thran of Cvrrent really grabbed on and started supporting right away. From there I started making fins for people, particularly in Rhode Island. Then up in Maine, when Maine Surfer’s Union started putting some of my early fins in the shop.
It took people who were already in surfing and saw that I had potential to foist me up and keep me going.
GN: I speak for so many of us in saying that I am endlessly entertained by your endless list of projects beyond fins—like the Dunkin’ board, or teak pencils, or fiberglass skateboards, or resin fin screws. Your enthusiasm for the handmade seems unabated. Where does that drive come from, and how was it implanted?
KN: I originally had intentions of becoming an engineer and went to school at UNH for mechanical engineering. But my heart was always more set on artistry and creativity, with an interest in functionality and building things start to finish. All of those desires followed me through school. It pushed me away from engineering and into graphic design.
Beyond college I was a graphic designer and later a footwear designer for a small company in Hampton. That was fun because footwear design starts aesthetically, and all of the technical aspects are factored in after the fact. That was a nightmare of a job but interesting for me.
When we got the house here in Hampton and I was able to start working in the garage, I started making molds and pressing snowboards. Eventually I got a pneumatic snowboard press off Craigslist. All of my desires to tinker have finally culminated in a real independent business of fin making.
GN: Is it a challenge to commit to projects, like the Dunkin’ board, which require so much time and labor and whose ends are undetermined? Do you have any advice for others looking to quell whatever spurs from that uncertainty of going out on your own?
KN: It really does stem back to a personal desire or level of stubbornness or a commitment to following through. But we also live in a world where there is such value placed on exposing yourself through social media and the community that, for good or bad, exists around that—in surfing and elsewhere.
In the same way that someone can hide behind the nasty comment they left on YouTube, we’re sort of doing the same thing—putting yourself out there without being out there. I am able to stay removed, which offers up a bit of courage. I am able to put myself out there without some of the consequences. I think there has been a lot of value to that.
I don’t want to put myself in front of people and talk. It puts me in a very anxious place. I struggle with public exposure situations. Making those boards, I put hours and hours and hours into making them, and suddenly people said, “We like it, you’re coming to California.” And I went, “Oh shit, I am putting myself in the real world.”
All of a sudden I am at the farm where they hold their events and Nick Melanson and Tyler Warren are walking around looking at something that I made. This is real. It’s a shock coming from our cute surf community here.
GN: Functionally speaking, there are similar alternatives to the fins you make available from big companies and at much lower price points, and yet your custom order queue is always overflowing and your supply can’t reach demand. What are your thoughts about the general status of the surfing consumer?
KN: Surfing is so unique for that reason. There is an underground of individuals who focus on and appreciate the handmade. They uphold it as peak quality and peak performance. There’s not a lot of sports that exist in the same way. There’s some of that in skiing and snowboarding, but largely it’s driven by a much bigger industry reliant on large factories. That’s true of surfing as well, but there is that unique core supporting craftspeople.
Before I surfed and before I bought my first hand-shaped surfboard, I didn’t know that this community existed at all. Even growing up near the Cape and going into surf shops, you’re not aware that there’s a scene of craftspeople that exists. So long as people are able to go into the ocean and surf, I don’t think that it will ever go away.
It’s a unique connection to your craft. Whether the craft is detrimental to the environment or not is a whole other discussion, but it is supportive of the pursuit of surfing and it all goes hand in hand. If you have a shaper that you like, it’s sort of like having your favorite band or artist. You keep going back for more songs or new feelings or expressions. That has value to the right people.
It’s not unlike the music industry where you have people who only listen to the top 50 on the radio. There’s a whole underground scene of people for whom music changes the way they perceive reality. The same is true of surfing.
GN: Knowing the etymology of your fin models, it would be fair to assume that music has been a big source of inspiration for your practice.
KN: Yeah. I worked at Newbury Comics, which is a big chain of record stores in New England. I spent almost ten years through high school and college working for them. Being exposed to music at that level changed my perspective on life and the human species and really reformed who I was. Music, since then, has always been a crucial part of my life.
My kids are starting to like music, and we’re taking them along to shows now.
That’s bled into surf craft. Hydrophile is an amalgamation of words that stem from the term audiophile—someone who is very specific about sound and music. It’s the same concept. One of my logos is the 45 adapter. All of my fin models are named after songs or musicians that mean a lot to me. Music means a lot to me, and I look at it much the same way as I do surfing and surf craft.
GN: In New England, the design curiosity often outweighs the opportunities for design research. How do you deal with those challenges?
KN: It’s definitely a challenge. I’d say that I am an adept surfer, not a great surfer. I am definitely relying on surfers who are in a place in the world where the surf is more consistent. Getting a number of iterations of a design made and into the hands of people who can put them to the test is absolutely critical.
Considering I am balancing family life, I am grateful to have the time in between swells to focus. If we did have waves all the time, I’d probably be in a much worse state, even though I would appreciate that. But at this point I have quite a few fins out there and do get reports back from kind individuals who have meaningful feedback. It’s a great feeling to have a community that’s willing to experiment with me and wait for the next opportunity.
GN: Hydrophile altogether seems to be so tied up in a greater New England sensibility. One marked by self-sufficiency, figuring things out yourself, humility, fervor, pride in craft, etc.
KN: We do live in a place where there’s a lot of pride in your work. There’s a lot of tradespeople who are passionate about what they do—whether they’re a fisherman or a plumber. Less traditionally artistic pursuits take on the same amount of passion and meaning.
My parents were both teachers in elementary school and high school, so learning has always been somewhat critical to me.
GN: Can you tell me about the resins you use? I know there’s a consciousness about what materials you use and how it affects the home.
KN: I started using epoxy made by Entropy when I started making surfboards because there’s zero VOC and largely zero smell—much less pervasive than poly resins. There’s compression epoxy that reacts to heat, and a lamination epoxy that’s ideal for surfboards. I’ve been using that for fins since the very beginning.
Originally that was out of a passion for the ability to work from home as well as the environmental impact. In pursuing using it, I’ve pushed my craft to the point where I am able to say that these fins are a superior and longer-lasting product than a poly fin.
I heat treat all of my fins in a post-cure oven that ramps their strength, elasticity, and flex. It’s subjective; a lot of people love poly fins and the way they change or break in over time, the flex or lack of flex lent by long-term use. But I am making a different product.
You don’t see people in ski making or fishing poles using anything but an epoxy resin. The strength is superior in so many ways. It’s a slower process and a more finicky one that can be slightly more limiting in terms of aesthetics, only because you can’t get the same clarity that you could from a poly fin. It’s all something I’ve learned to adapt with.
GN: What do your kids think of all this? Do they know their dad has a very unique job?
KN: They know that we’re a little off in terms of families in this area. We live in a town on the seacoast in New Hampshire and we’re very fortunate to be here. But, you know, all four of us are vegan and we like metal and punk music.
Both of my kids are the only two snowboarders at their school and the rest are all skiers. Well, there’s a few. We just had the best winter watching my six-year-old link together turns and rip. It was transcendental.
A couple months ago, he came home from school with a little “about me” sheet. It said, “When I grow up, I want to make fins.” They’re both interested in what I do and are incredible artists, but they’re not surfing quite yet. Our water is so cold and the ocean is intimidating, but they’re getting there.
I am hopeful that they continue finding interest in it, and more importantly, hope that they can find what they’re really passionate about in their pursuits. But hey, it would be nice if I had a little built-in helper.
GN: Might be the first multi-generational fin business in New England!
KN: Oh yeah.
GN: What’s next on the near-term docket for Hydrophile? Plans for a permanent booth at the Crest Surf Club wave pool?
KN: Pools are hot! Yeah, I am good. I heard they’re looking to put a new pool in Massachusetts. I really hope not!
One of my fin panels each month of last year was inspired by color combinations from a book by a Japanese artist called Sanzo Wada. I have a collection of one fin from each of those panels. I am hoping to put those up at the Surf Exchange Cafe, Andrew’s shop in Rhode Island, and maybe elsewhere too.
I am hoping to just continue along that path. That was a long 12-month project that has yet to come to fruition. I just want to talk about surf craft and how it relates to artistic pursuits.
The whole thing was inspired by Wada’s book (The Encyclopedia of the Color Combination) and the Japanese industrial movement called the Mingei movement, which focused on the anonymity of ceramicists. I thought of it as so relevant to the surfboard industry—especially when talking about sanders and glassers.
I’m gonna keep down those threads, but largely just keep doing what I am doing and get fins in people’s hands as much as I can while maintaining a healthy balance of family and work.
GN: Well Korey, thanks for keeping us going.
KN: That’s what it’s all about.